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March 10, 2008

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AndyB

I just happen to know someone from Romainia!
A gal I used to work with. I can send her a message if you'd like.

jon

Get out!! I really would like to know the gist of their conversation, if it is not too much trouble. Your call, Andy.

Donald Johnson

Hi Jon

I have a snarky post waiting in my drafts folder called "a pox on mission statements". I am not sure if I will ever publish it, but I think the trendy pastoral methodologies derived from the corporate world are worse than useless. Where is the Spirit in all of this?

Regards,
Don Johnson
Jer 33.3

AndyB

I've established communications with the Romainian contact. You will be notified shortly of the results of the intelligence operation.

AndyB

Oh no! The Romanian contact's ability to speak Romanian has been compromised!

In her own words:

We are from Moldova which was part of Romania and then became part of Soviet Union. Moldova and Romania have the same language. So you could expect me to know it. But since Moldova was part of the Empire everybody used Russian there.

They were assimilated!

jon

LOL--that's too funny! Oh well, we tried. Thanks, Andy.

Champ

RE: Rick Phillips' article on strategic planning, it seems that he is trying to strike a balance (neither wholesale embracing nor throwing out the baby).
But isn't this true for nearly any aspect of church life? Too much emphasis on the preaching could cause neglect of personal pastoral care. Too much work on theological documents and position papers could weaken the weekly feeding of the flock. Too much emphasis on one doctrine could introduce its own converse error. Or too much (uncritical) study of one particular author could yield an unhealthy, unbalanced diet.
So, as with all aspects of church life, "Let's eat the fish and spit out the bones."
Strategic planning (or church schedule or weekly bulletins or committee meetings or technological gizmos or whatever) can be excellent "servants." But they make terrible "masters."

jon

"Balance"--what a cursed word! Just kiddin, Champ, and yes, of course, hence my last sentence in the post and the italicized word. As one reads the typical church planting stuff out there, in the main, it appears the scales have shifted toward strategery.

pgepps

hold on, so we're eating fish, spitting bones, and shifting the scales?

what do y'all propose we do with the fins?

(does AndyB have any friends in Finland?)

jon

Peter,

At least Personal Trainer is going out in style, eh?

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