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April 12, 2005

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Scott M

Isn't it just as possible, though, to have the right balance of authority, submission, and accountibility in a congregationalist church as it is in a presbyterian type elder-ruled church? The existence of little "kings and queens" in certain churches doesn't necessarily mean that the whole congregational system of church governance is wrong, does it. That would be like saying that because a woman in one family usurps her husband's authority that all married women should be stripped of any say in the decision-making in the home. Every system has natural pros and cons, strengths and weaknesses. One person's or group's abuse of the weaknesses of a system should not necessarily condemn the entire system. There are probably just as many cases of pastors and elders abusing their authority.

Joel

Jon, you're going to love Quentin Faulkner when he comes. The whole book is based on the idea that we have lost the old world-conscious idea (identifiying corporately) for a self-conscious idea (pietism) and the way he shows it is by tracing the ideas as they show up in church music.

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